Fast-Tracked: From Concept to Film in 2 Months - with Jason Munden

Geoff: 00:00:00

Hey there.

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Welcome back.

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I'm Geoff.

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We're glad to have you back with us today on the Faith and Family Filmmakers Podcast and we have Jason Munden returning.

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We talked with Jason in the last episode.

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Where he shared about his background.

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Largely his background is with church, video and media production leading into commercial work with some major companies and then moving into narrative.

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So Jason, welcome back.

Jason: 00:00:27

Thank you for having me back.

Geoff: 00:00:28

You are so welcome.

Geoff: 00:00:30

Uh, Jason and Jaclyn have been working together.

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and if you listen to the last episode, you'll hear some of that, how they connected through, uh, somebody who was.

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Looking for some work done and then did end up doing some work together.

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But one of the projects that you mentioned, Junk Man, has never happened.

Geoff: 00:00:49

Uh, you guys have kind of along the way determined that it was, well, it did require a fairly large budget just by the nature of the film, and felt like you needed to kind of work together on something that was a little, um, more reasonable target budget- wise first.

Jason: 00:01:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Geoff: 00:01:06

And you did, you, you, came up with something.

Geoff: 00:01:08

So tell us about Bible College, Jason, where did it begin?

Jason: 00:01:13

Uh, great conversation.

Jason: 00:01:14

Yeah, I think, pick whatever adage you want to pick, you know, eat the elephant one bite at a time, crawl before you can walk, uh, walk before you can run what, whatever the thing may be.

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I just know that, um, if you just keep going at it.

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And so Jaclyn and I, I think were, were at that time.

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Communicating twice a month, every other week, just touching base, like, what's going on?

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Uh, what are you working on?

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What are we sensing?

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We're trying to get some of these other projects like, hey, and, and then at the same time, I think, I was really, believing God is going to Give me something, knew I was gonna shoot something this year.

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is early 20, 25, February, March, April comes around and then Jaclyn's like, Hey, uh, we're getting asked to possibly put something together.

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For, uh, Faithia app and, uh, maybe some micro episodes.

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and I had been marinating down something and I was keeping it kind of close to the chest, but earlier that day, God really put it in my heart and I just saw it.

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and then I was like, Hey, Jaclyn, here's an idea.

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And when it came outta my mouth and I was like, what about Bible College?

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And it's kind of like the office, but it's kind of like the OC and it's kind of like, like it's young, cool, and hip and we both were kinda like, oh my gosh.

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my wife and I had, we, we have three daughters that have already been our third daughter is going to Bible college.

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So I was like, if anybody knows this, and plus we all went through Bible college, right.

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my wife and myself.

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And my son is already looking forward to going to Bible college.

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he's like, he's hyped.

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Um, and so we, kind of did a quick little dah, dah, dah, here it is.

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And, and they liked it.

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They just didn't know what it looked or felt like.

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And so.

Geoff: 00:02:47

Awesome.

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Just, I'm gonna pause you there for a second because we're gonna get more into that.

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But I wanna pause and talk about Bible college.

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Uh, you know, you say you went through it, your kids have three, have gone through it, your son's looking forward to it.

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it seems to be a significant part of the life of your family.

Geoff: 00:03:03

So without necessarily, uh, you know, spending a whole lot of time, tell us about that significant part in your family.

Jason: 00:03:09

Sure.

Jason: 00:03:10

Uh, well talk about pioneering and first and highly adaptable and learning on the go.

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And you, you just do the next right thing.

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Uh, part of what happened at City Church for me when I was in my twenties was they started a bible college and I was the very first one to go through it.

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Um, myself and Judah Smith, uh, Judah was a senior in high school and, um.

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We'd share a table together and I would bring all the like color, ink, things.

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And so he would take doctrine and we had a couple other classes, but it was.

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It was super simple structure, learning in the morning, three days a week.

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And then in the afternoons, evenings you'd actually go do actual ministry stuff,

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which was so great 'cause you learned every kind of ministry.

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There was one, one time you, you know, work in administrations and you work in youth and you'd work in, so that was a cool, and it was a new structure of Bible college that kind of, that's where all this came out of.

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Well, it's grown and grown and grown and now 25 years later It's become this, and multiple places have done these like two year kind of programs.

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Um, and it's been impeccable.

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A lot of great youth pastors have come out of, of these two year programs, right?

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Because they get the bible, they get correct understanding of the holistic between, between basic doctrine and covenants.

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You're gonna be a pretty solid Christian after you get that much word.

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And, I think Jordan Peterson.

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Somebody had a rainbow structure of how, where scripture connects with scripture and it's just like,

Geoff: 00:04:30

So this sounds like something valuable, whether you end up

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going down the path of ministry or not.

Jason: 00:04:34

Yeah.

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Ministry or not, just having that basic understanding.

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And I know multimillionaires that were behind me a couple years, multimillionaires that went through two years, and they're called the business, but , I wholeheartedly believe there are a lot of pastors that are probably business people, and there's a lot of business people that probably should be pastors, right.

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It's, uh, it's just a common, common thread, but we call it a 10th given it a given, a 10th of your life, right?

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You, you, you give two years of your life, right outta high school, to the things of God, to learning God, learning His Holy Spirit learning, you know, and experiencing it in a really.

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Awesome environment.

Geoff: 00:05:11

So your kids have gone through the same bible college there in California,

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yeah, yeah.

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The three, my three daughters.

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Yeah.

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Which was, uh, an extension of the one in Seattle because, um, in fact the same pastor who taught me doctrine has taught my wife and my three daughters doctrine.

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I don't know if he'll see you doing it while my son does it, but.

Geoff: 00:05:31

Okay, cool.

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Oh, let's get back into, um, the story from there.

Jason: 00:05:36

yeah.

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So.

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Um, Jaclyn and I both decided kind of like, this is a good idea, regardless of if Faithia likes it or not, let's develop this.

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And it was so clear.

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And then another very talented individual had gone through a two year Bible college, the two year bible college that I just, described, Nathan Gamble, and he had already started a script.

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Um, and it was

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So did you know that at this point, or how did this connection happen, or how did you find out that he had already written a script?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, kind of.

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I mean, here's the tie into the corporate work.

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I hired Nathan to be an actor in one of my corporate jobs for Microsoft.

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And were talking like, how do we take the next level?

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How do we become, you know, faith adjacent or faith based filmmakers?

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And, um, you gotta trust that process of the next thing leads you to the next thing, which is 100% the last year and a half of my life.

Geoff: 00:06:30

Mm-hmm.

Jason: 00:06:31

Then, um, so I got wind of it that he had done something and I was like, dude, is this true?

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He's like, yeah, here's the 45 page script.

Geoff: 00:06:39

Yeah.

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So something called "Bible College",

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Yeah, Something similar.

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I think he was gonna call it something else.

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I, I can't remember this point, but he was like, he freely gave it to us.

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Do what you want, I, I knew I liked it, but then I waited.

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I didn't say a word to Jaclyn I let her read it.

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She came back, she's like, this is good.

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And I was like, I know, right?

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And I was like, well, how do you feel about like, let's bring him in.

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Because Nathan you know, he's done more than.

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Ton of people, right?

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I mean, he was in the dark night for crying out loud,

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you know, so, and the Star of Dolphin Tale, right?

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And, and he's about to explode, I think, in the faith-based world too.

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'cause he is got two movies coming out, "Bad Counselors" and, um, uh, "Miracle on the Precipice"... I think I'm saying that right.

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and he is got a couple other, uh, things, so

Geoff: 00:07:24

Yeah, I know that, uh, from Jaclyn's side with the idea of, okay, let's.

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Potentially take the script and use it.

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You had his permission, but from her perspective, it was like, n no, no, let's, bring him in and, make him one of the writers.

Geoff: 00:07:37

He's already done the work.

Jason: 00:07:39

Yeah, it was the right thing and it just only continued to, um, it like revealed itself, like this was the smartest thing that we could have done.

Geoff: 00:07:47

So from there, I think a very significant part of this story is how fast it happened.

Geoff: 00:07:52

From the time you had this idea and said, Hey Jaclyn, how about we do something called Bible College?

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I know part of it for you was, okay, my kids are, uh, have been, and one is in this Bible college.

Geoff: 00:08:03

a, I could probably have access to the facilities.

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We're talking a, a small campus, and access to students, uh, college age students, people who have been there or are in Baba College and so on.

Geoff: 00:08:15

but from there it happened so fast.

Jason: 00:08:17

yeah.

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There's a, there's a part of the story that I have to leave out just due to my own, discretion, but the, I'll just say this that, after seeking God as diligently as I didn't when it landed in my thing, it was like the heavens open up it was like, why did I ever think about this before?

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And then the urgency kicked in and I think the urgency was.

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nothing like this is out there.

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Um, I had already heard through the grapevine, like, series are, what Streaming is looking for?

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They're looking for series, they're looking for episodic.

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Right?

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And then I was just like, oh my gosh.

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So that was May, that was the first week of May-ish.

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And I was like, is there a way we can shoot in June?

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And we, we got to a point where it was like, there's just no way June.

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So we went from June 26th.

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27th ish to July.

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Uh, just pushed in a month and things started working out.

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I think people thought I was crazy.

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I know my wife did, and I think Nathan said, said something one time.

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He is like, dude, is there a reason why we're pushing?

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I was like, I don't know.

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I just know God told me to do this.

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So fast, and I'm sorry.

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Like, it, it makes me emotional because the weight of it.

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And then it started coming together and then every time we had a milestone, whether that be money or actors or whatever, it just would, it would just work out.

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And then the script kept getting better and better.

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By the time they got to the third rendition, I was like, this is good.

Geoff: 00:09:33

So in the meantime, you were working on the background stuff, organizing, uh, even casting, uh, within two months of having the idea within two, I mean, it was literally barely more than two months from having the idea to when you, shot

Geoff: 00:09:47

the, the three day shoot.

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And, uh, and in the meantime.

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You know, Jaclyn and Nathan were writing, the script.

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he had some great characters stuff, from his original script, but then they kind of rewrote the story and, uh, and all of this was happening at the same time.

Geoff: 00:10:03

you were casting before the script was done.

Jason: 00:10:05

Yeah, totally.

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we had scenes for every actor to work off of.

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So we knew we could kind of start casting and, and playing with that.

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And I handpicked that.

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I did not do an open casting call.

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Um, I really was a handpicked thing.

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'Cause I was like, I need speed and I need to count on the people that I know I, and trust and or have been referred to me by somebody I know, like, and trust.

Jason: 00:10:25

And so that's why Willie was in, I had seen Isabelle, and I had already worked with, um, Bianca, so it was hand in hand.

Jason: 00:10:33

Uh, Nathan and Jaclyn were going as strong as they could,

Jason: 00:10:36

and then we did the table read, and it was like, what did we just, what did we just do?

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Like, this is fun.

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there's a guy, I'm forgetting his name, I think his name's David he does a lot of the narrator stuff for Jaclyn's table reads and stuff.

Geoff: 00:10:50

John Goad.

Geoff: 00:10:50

John Goad.

Geoff: 00:10:51

Yeah, Yeah, John.

Geoff: 00:10:52

And, he was cracking up.

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He had to mute himself okay, if I can make him laugh,

Geoff: 00:10:56

And, not just that it was there, there was some heartbeat behind it.

Geoff: 00:10:59

And, um, and then we, we still, we got it in the can and we had a lot of great support.

Geoff: 00:11:05

Shout out to Corey, Ryan.

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You guys all showed up.

Geoff: 00:11:08

Everybody just three

Geoff: 00:11:10

Yeah, it was, it was pretty cool.

Geoff: 00:11:13

Jaclyn and I did go out to California for that, like you said, three days.

Geoff: 00:11:17

It is a, a quick turnaround.

Geoff: 00:11:18

I mean, we travel a fair amount.

Geoff: 00:11:20

Um, and not always do we, are we out and back in five days, but we actually shot a full pilot while we were there, and that was pretty cool.

Jason: 00:11:28

yeah, and we, everybody jumped in and everybody did everything.

Jason: 00:11:32

Nobody was you know.

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Too big to do anything.

Jason: 00:11:34

We, we moved a lot of stuff and then we ended up at a bonfire and the sun was setting and we somehow, someway the, the scene that we needed the to shine on her face as she's kind of given that last moment, like the sun stayed, uh, like, and then moments later it just dropped as we got the last lines in.

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It was such a cool moment.

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And obviously there was still sun and beach, but it gets harder to get really good quality with that.

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And we didn't wanna do a bunch of lighting and stuff.

Geoff: 00:12:00

Mm-hmm.

Jason: 00:12:01

Um.

Jason: 00:12:01

so yeah, and then we ultimately, you know, started putting it together and um, I'm just gonna kind of fast forward a little bit in the fact that we didn't understand why, um, we had to get it, but there was such a sense of accomplishment that we got it in the can and it's like now we know what we're working with.

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And basically.

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we were working through getting some more funding and getting some more stuff, but feeling really confident where it was.

Jason: 00:12:25

And then Charlie Kirk, you know, the assassination of Charlie Kirk happened, and it's interesting again, he is on college campuses speaking about Jesus, speaking about the Lord.

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And, um, then, then I understood we weren't behind.

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We were right on time.

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So this, this message, uh, again, I'm not claiming to be a part of the Charlie Kirk or turning point USA, but, but we're all aligned on this fact that young people need Jesus.

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Young people need to see and feel and

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And know that

Geoff: 00:12:53

does seem to be an awakening.

Geoff: 00:12:54

Mm-hmm.

Jason: 00:12:54

Yeah.

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There is more, conservative Christian Young men are living differently.

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they're not living for the moment.

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They're living for a life.

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And, and then there's a, there's a lot of young up and coming, like they're not sure what to do.

Jason: 00:13:08

And I think em a fun roadmap to bible college could be good.

Jason: 00:13:14

We actually had a, a great story and I want this story to be told.

Jason: 00:13:17

A million times over that night at the bonfire, we had somebody who had, um, been involved with the church but had been to the church in a long time and had broken up with her boyfriend, earlier in the day and came out to do this second part of, the filming.

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And that night ended up staying like an hour after.

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Um, talking with my daughter and they were friends before she decided she wanted to come to Bible college.

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So right now, currently she is in Bible college.

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Her life is amazing, and she's, uh, God got her like It it

Geoff: 00:13:51

Yeah.

Jason: 00:13:51

was so good.

Geoff: 00:13:52

So she really made a decision to, turn her life around after some time away, uh, right there at that campfire while

Jason: 00:14:00

Right there in that moment.

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So, and we, you know, that's kind of the thing too, when we were filming, we're like, Hey, this is not fake.

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This is like, have a campfire.

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And we, we told Willie like, make this a good moment, and we just let the cameras roll.

Jason: 00:14:12

Right?

Jason: 00:14:12

It wasn't like we were trying to be super spiritual.

Jason: 00:14:14

We weren't trying, but there's something about when you tell the story of Jesus, when, you know, you'll hear Willie's story or his character's story, Owen, tells his story.

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Then, um, God is glorified.

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His anointing comes in and grace fills the space.

Geoff: 00:14:32

So tell us what's happening now.

Geoff: 00:14:33

I know since then you've been, uh, editing, you know, coloring, adding music, and, like you say, continuing raising funds.

Geoff: 00:14:41

But, uh, you've got a premier coming up real soon.

Jason: 00:14:44

Yeah.

Jason: 00:14:45

Um, it's crazy.

Jason: 00:14:46

Even as we're talking right now, I'm getting, uh, texts from the editor who's putting the, putting it all together.

Jason: 00:14:52

We just got the mix back.

Jason: 00:14:53

Um, we are again, time, fast, focus, all those things come into play.

Jason: 00:14:59

But we were invited to come out from my good friend Spencer, uh, Folmar, who is the creator of Hard Faith and, They've done the festivals three years down here in LA.

Jason: 00:15:10

I've been to two of them.

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Um, but they're doing a one -dayer in New York City and my wife and I were at dinner and we, we said, Hey, let's, go to New York just to support them because we love them so much.

Jason: 00:15:22

And I was like, you know, a day or two in New York during Christmas time, that sounds like a fun getaway with no real.

Jason: 00:15:30

Thought about Bible college being ready or whatever, and Spencer was like, I love it.

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bring something.

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I was like, what do you want me to bring?

Jason: 00:15:35

He, and he knew about Bible College.

Jason: 00:15:38

He was like, bring Bible College.

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Let's premier it.

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Let's premier it in New York.

Jason: 00:15:40

I was like, that kind of sounds good.

Jason: 00:15:43

And so it was great because we, um, you know, kinda lit a fire to get us really done and done.

Jason: 00:15:50

but it's open doors, right?

Jason: 00:15:51

God, God is good.

Jason: 00:15:52

And, And again, I met Spencer again.

Jason: 00:15:55

Crazy story Spencer.

Jason: 00:15:56

Two years ago I had just shot Ripple, went to Hard Faith.

Jason: 00:16:01

Pitched Ripple at Hard Faith the following year.

Jason: 00:16:04

Submitted it, won it, won it all.

Jason: 00:16:07

And then now that whole relationship has allowed us to like, you know, be at a premiere.

Jason: 00:16:14

We don't care, win, lose, or draw.

Jason: 00:16:15

It's we're, we're treating it like the first time that a crowd gets to see it.

Jason: 00:16:18

So,

Geoff: 00:16:18

Yeah.

Geoff: 00:16:18

Yeah.

Geoff: 00:16:19

And you mentioned, a couple of times how, you know, one thing leads to another, but, um, you telling us that it was gonna premier in New York City, that prompted us to go, of course, which prompted, us in talking with Spencer to come on board as sponsors and to do promotion for the festival.

Geoff: 00:16:36

And we'll get to be there and meet people and tell people about, uh, faith and Family Filmmakers Association and of course be there for the premier.

Geoff: 00:16:43

So.

Geoff: 00:16:44

It is pretty exciting.

Geoff: 00:16:45

And who else is coming?

Jason: 00:16:47

Yeah.

Jason: 00:16:47

Uh, so Nathan Gamble's coming.

Jason: 00:16:49

Um, but then also Isabel, our lead, actress of Bible college is gonna be there.

Jason: 00:16:54

She's flying up.

Jason: 00:16:54

She's got some friends.

Jason: 00:16:55

She's like New York.

Jason: 00:16:56

Uh, yeah.

Jason: 00:16:57

And then my, of course my daughter Jewel, who is like, she wants to move to New York someday.

Geoff: 00:17:02

She was quite involved in the filming.

Jason: 00:17:03

She was, she, she really was.

Jason: 00:17:05

I was really proud of her.

Jason: 00:17:06

She was like a production coordinator.

Jason: 00:17:08

Um, and for her age for being 17 and doing what she did, I'm super impressed and blessed by her.

Jason: 00:17:15

And she doesn't care if she was acting or not.

Jason: 00:17:17

She's been an actress.

Jason: 00:17:18

She was on Dean Kane's soccer movie, uh, which was cool.

Jason: 00:17:22

Um, little Angels.

Jason: 00:17:24

And so yeah, new York's gonna be great.

Jason: 00:17:27

Nathan's gonna be there, though.

Jason: 00:17:28

I think the whole creative team's gonna be there, and we're just gonna enjoy and see what happens.

Jason: 00:17:33

But we've already had some really, really good.

Jason: 00:17:35

feedback and I wanna shout out to everybody who's supported us so far, both in prayer and in um, finances.

Jason: 00:17:41

Um, that's been great.

Jason: 00:17:42

If you want to, you know, maybe we can put the link up to give and go.

Jason: 00:17:46

Um, it's been, it's been a labor of love, but we've all, you know, done what we've needed to do to, to get it to this part.

Jason: 00:17:53

But, um, we're excited 'cause we have some really good, solid interests and it.

Jason: 00:17:58

Seems like every next step we take, we get more and more interest.

Jason: 00:18:02

so that's a good thing.

Geoff: 00:18:04

Yeah.

Geoff: 00:18:04

Let's talk, before we go, let's talk for a moment about some specific lessons learned.

Geoff: 00:18:09

I'm gonna start actually.

Geoff: 00:18:11

More specifically a lesson that's clear throughout this conversation and one that comes up again and again, uh, with the faith of Heaven Filmmakers Association and on our podcasts, and it's so obvious, but relationships, relationships, relationships, relationships

Geoff: 00:18:27

are everything and not formed around what immediately what you can do for somebody or what they can do for you,

Geoff: 00:18:35

but.

Geoff: 00:18:36

Building relationships because, uh, bible college came from probably a couple of year relation, year old

Geoff: 00:18:44

relationship of constantly checking, working

Geoff: 00:18:48

with each other.

Geoff: 00:18:49

You know, it's everything and it, you can't always see where the results are gonna come.

Geoff: 00:18:56

and you can't put all your eggs in one basket.

Jason: 00:18:58

Yeah.

Geoff: 00:18:59

You know, but you build relationships and, um, that's where opportunities are gonna come.

Jason: 00:19:04

Yeah.

Jason: 00:19:04

I agree.

Jason: 00:19:05

I think that's definitely a, a learn and look, I love people.

Jason: 00:19:10

It's, it's one thing that like, you hear people like, oh, I'm not good with people, da da da.

Jason: 00:19:13

I love it.

Jason: 00:19:14

I freaking love people so much.

Jason: 00:19:16

I love to see And I love giving people opportunities like.

Jason: 00:19:21

You know, it's just great and I love the process.

Jason: 00:19:23

But I think one of the biggest learns that, that we've come, away with during this season, and, again, I wanna shout out Alexandria, For her help.

Jason: 00:19:32

Um, and just helping just be kind of a consultant.

Jason: 00:19:35

And, and what I'm gonna say is from building the movie or building the TV show to distribution has been the most eye-opening, most crazy learn ever because everything is changing.

Jason: 00:19:48

and this doesn't surprise me with how God does my life.

Jason: 00:19:52

Like, I'm gonna drop you into the craziest environment ever.

Jason: 00:19:56

Both in Hollywood and in faith-based with this streaming service stuff and with this other, it has been be because nobody knows the answer.

Jason: 00:20:05

Like

Geoff: 00:20:06

Right, right.

Jason: 00:20:06

They may say they know.

Geoff: 00:20:08

You were referring to Alexandria Boylan

Geoff: 00:20:10

and, uh, she's always learning the answer new from one movie to the next.

Jason: 00:20:15

Yeah.

Jason: 00:20:16

Because it's changing, it's changing every three months or so.

Jason: 00:20:18

Right.

Jason: 00:20:19

Um, and so I appreciate her, Just guidance and just being somebody who we can chat with.

Jason: 00:20:24

it's awesome.

Jason: 00:20:25

There's been a few others as well, and, uh, but that's been the biggest learn.

Jason: 00:20:29

But the Lord has, I believe, kind of navigated us well, so this is where I think hearing from God really comes in as a Christian, as a business person, as a, director, as a producer, as an actor, actress, whatever.

Jason: 00:20:39

You gotta hear God.

Jason: 00:20:40

Because if you don't know his voice, you don't know when to stop.

Jason: 00:20:43

And you don't know when to run.

Jason: 00:20:45

And sometimes you just gotta sit.

Jason: 00:20:47

Uh, Watchman Knee has an incredible book, sit, walk, stand, right?

Jason: 00:20:51

But it all comes down to this.

Jason: 00:20:53

And I read the book shortly before we started doing the movie.

Jason: 00:20:55

I've read it twice.

Jason: 00:20:57

Um.

Jason: 00:20:58

If you don't know his voice, are in danger of missing his

Jason: 00:21:03

voice.

Jason: 00:21:04

And I, I can't afford that.

Jason: 00:21:05

So when I hike, when I pray, when I read the Word, speak to me, Lord, what is the next right step?

Jason: 00:21:11

Okay, stop, stop, stop.

Jason: 00:21:12

You know, like, okay.

Jason: 00:21:13

He'll do it.

Jason: 00:21:14

He'll close the door.

Jason: 00:21:15

we just got in, it's gonna be transparent.

Jason: 00:21:17

We just got into a house that if I'm happier about this house than the three other houses that we were trying to get in and like, oh Lord, help give us this time.

Jason: 00:21:23

He is like, no, I'm gonna protect you.

Jason: 00:21:24

And then he opens the right door at the right

Jason: 00:21:27

time and, um, so yeah.

Geoff: 00:21:31

Cool, Well, we're gonna get that, uh, GiveSendGo link in the show notes, as you said.

Geoff: 00:21:37

We'll, also, um, I think I could probably put a link in there for the teaser.

Geoff: 00:21:41

You've got a teaser available right now, right?

Jason: 00:21:43

Yeah.

Jason: 00:21:44

And in fact, that's all on the GiveSendGo.

Jason: 00:21:46

So if they just go to

Jason: 00:21:46

that link, they're gonna see the teaser there and then also see, you know, different, levels of giving and stuff

Geoff: 00:21:52

and

Geoff: 00:21:52

of course you've got, investors outside of the donation platform as well that are more of a traditional investor.

Geoff: 00:21:58

and we'll be, you'll be, I should say, he heading into looking for investment towards season one.

Geoff: 00:22:02

So,

Jason: 00:22:03

Yeah, yeah, totally.

Jason: 00:22:04

100%. we wanna do eight episodes and, um, we've said this kind of from the beginning that we're willing to reshoot the pilot if it needs to, but I think we did a pretty good job and we'll, we'll see where it lands, but I think, um, I think it's exciting.

Jason: 00:22:18

And eight episodes is just about right.

Jason: 00:22:20

One, one last thing, and this can conclude our thought.

Jason: 00:22:23

We were in Indiana and, uh, you guys were at ,that at purpose conference.

Jason: 00:22:28

And um, they had a panel they had this panel of high schoolers.

Jason: 00:22:32

our team was in there as well.

Jason: 00:22:34

And they asked a really good question that was simply this, how do you like.

Jason: 00:22:38

Your content, how do you like it?

Jason: 00:22:39

And it was episodic.

Jason: 00:22:41

We wanna see heartbreak, we wanna see cringe, we wanna see drama, we wanna be able to text about the episodes with our friends and share the journey.

Jason: 00:22:49

And so we had already shot Bible college and it was so cool to feel like we hit all those boxes 'cause there's a little bit of everything in

Jason: 00:22:58

there.

Jason: 00:22:58

And this is not targeted just at young people.

Jason: 00:23:01

We have shown this to more 30 and 40 year olds And, uh, everybody gets it if you've gone to Bible college or you've been around Churcheese a little bit too much or there's just a little bit of everything, um, in there.

Jason: 00:23:13

So, uh, I think it's something that is gonna catch on quickly.

Jason: 00:23:16

I think it's gonna be fire.

Geoff: 00:23:18

Cool.

Geoff: 00:23:18

Cool.

Geoff: 00:23:19

Well, Jason, uh, it's been great hearing all the details.

Geoff: 00:23:23

Um, I'm sure there's something inspiring in there for everyone and, something to learn.

Geoff: 00:23:29

Thanks for sharing your heart with us

Geoff: 00:23:30

and, uh,

Jason: 00:23:31

good times,

Geoff: 00:23:32

excited to see what the future holds

Jason: 00:23:34

Amen, brother.

Jason: 00:23:35

All

Geoff: 00:23:36

and we'll see you in New

Jason: 00:23:37

In New York City.

Jason: 00:23:39

Come on brother.

Jason: 00:23:40

All right man.

Jason: 00:23:40

See you guys.